And would you be so upset if it were a county full of people that share YOUR political persuasion, but similarly configured? Probably not. Therefore, you are not quite the objective guy you claim. You just have a lot of vocal people on this list who share YOUR views. There are a lot of people in Palm Beach County who share some other views. They feel cheated. They are angry. They are using the legal system to do something about it. They may not succeed. (Who cares.) All I claimed was that they have a right to pursue the issue precisely because the goal of elections is to see what the voters want, not whether the voters meet some intelligence criteria or can decipher some level of complexity. I may personally dislike the notion that such idiots are voting, but they have every right to vote. I also am well aware that real people in real situations make mistakes. That is why there are lots of recourses to help fix election process problems. Of course, the ideal would be that everyone votes exactly at the same time, with informed intelligence, etc .. Real life is much more complicated than that, and unlike you, I do not pretend to know every complication (and have an proper solution) that could happen to such a huge process. Ern, President and CEO, PinHead Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Tim May [mailto:tcmay@got.net] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 12:48 PM To: cypherpunks@algebra.com Subject: Looking for statistically-unlikely surges in absentee ballots I just heard Karen Hughes of the Bush Campaign express concern about the status of absentee ballots being mailed AFTER the outcome of the election was shown to be so close. In particular, after the legal cut-off date. This fits with what I just posted about concerns that Florida dual-citizenship residents of Israel, or tourists in Israel, sending in absentee ballots they had neglected to send in by the cut-off date. (Or, more ominously, ZOG conveniently postmarking them to match the law in Florida.) [By the way, I think in my ZOG piece I mentioned Palm Beach County. This is not the point, as the closeness of the vote is Florida-wide. This is what I meant to say.] The thing to look for is a _surge_ in ballots arriving in Florida absentee ballots as compared to other states. While other states may also have some degree of "after the fact absentee ballots," the incentives are higher in a razor-thin state like Florida. A surge of absentee ballots arriving two or three days after the controversy became obvious would be compelling evidence to justify further investigation. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.