There's a ton of only semi-organized stuff out there. I would like structured info... more that just a filename, without having to install it myself, etc... Review of the packages would be real nice. PS: I heard CFS requires having NFS installed (ick!) and someone mentioned this opens you up to "portmapper assisted attacks"... I've avoided NFS and RPC until now so I don't know... does this have any credibility? Will I have to install a firewall to protect NFS just so I can use CFS to encrypt on disk? :) CC me in the replies please, since I'm not on the list... although I might get on coderpunks if the volume is small. Hmm, I just noticed the cypherpunks-ratings list, I wonder if this is what I'm looking for... too bad it doesn't have a description or an info file. -- travis@evtech.com | Virtual Reality Bites | P=NP if (P=0 or N=1) There's a thin line between an email message and its signature.