On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com> wrote :
As to you, the only thing I told them was you worked for Intel, made some money, retired, live out in the boonies with a bunch of guns, and talked a lot of crap.
When even tell them that?
I've answered this question before. I'm not a C-A-C-L. I don't see them as the 'enemy'. If CJ had really been running around putting bombs in courthouses (in Canada or not) or was a credible threat to anybody (whether they are agents are not is irrelelvant, and the distinction is really unconstitutional) then I WANT him in jail and will happily help put him there. I met CJ in person, under some rather strange cirumstances. He also went out of his way to involve me (eg the bomb description posts to the list he had on his person when he was captured) and the Austin Cypherpunks. I will say this, the AC were not impressed by him in general and the general consensus was he was at least a couple bricks short. If you want information, you sometimes have to give some. I operate a remailer for the express purpose of discussing alternatives to the current approaches to our society. Part of that is the willingness to involve myself with people, even if the odds of success are very low. I asked myself how credible I'd be if I ran around deciding I'd talk to this group but not that group. I felt, not very. Everything I said came from voluntary and reasonably public comments made by the appropriate parties over several years of interaction (I joined the original list in late '92 or early '93). Nothing I said can't be backed up by reams of posts. Finally, I'm more worried about my butt than yours or Timmy's. It was a personal judgement call, one that I believe I resolved equitably. If you don't agree, tough. It wasn't your call. (the fact that you want respect for your actions but can't seem to give it to others is only another indication of your real world view) Basically, I don't see it in the same immature black/white:us/them view that you and your cronnies hold. It ain't a football game, goober. -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------