I'd like to nominate Don Listwin for the first 'Flaming Idiot of the Month' award, since he has not fucking clue what he is talking about. Suffice it to say, most all of us are in favor of things like anonymous remailers and devices on the net to protect anonymous activities and keep us free from the clutches of big brother. Unfortunately, I happen to work for a company who's vice president of marketing likes to hear his fucking gums flap and who doesn't have enough of a brain to match his oratory complex. Little does he know that cisco's already been infiltrated by avid cypherpunks, cypherpunk friends, and proto-cypherpunks (before John's first meeting). Sigh... anyone got a deal on some lead pipe suitable of embedding in the empty skull of a certain suit? Paul