reply from attila: I agree there will be "universal" secrecy --there will always someone who manages to decode one or two "signatures" including handshakes, and spoofs them, after burying the sucker machine in response commands so it has a chance to grab the handshaking. a little group effort, a couple of fast machines to coordinate the attack, and rest just might be history. seems to me both Netscape and the abominable creature from the Pacific Northwest said they could not be broken.... Personally, I think NSA has figured out how to break PGP -- enough specialized DSPs and prime factoring tables on magneto- optical disks can go along way. If you have traffic both ways, you have the hash as well. dropping Phil accomplished two basic things: a cheap give- away to look good in public; and, they avoided defending ITAR in court --and the ninth circuit can be pretty cranky on the Bill of Rights --they don't follow Washington's line too well. On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Nelson Minar wrote:
rah@shipwright.com (Robert Hettinga) writes: [interesting article about the future, which includes..]
The reason we won't need LANs is because the only real difference between a LAN and the internet is a firewall for security, and the need for clients to speak Novell's TCP/IP-incompatible proprietary network protocol. With internet-level encryption protocols like the IETF IPSEC standard, you won't even need a firewall anymore. The only people who can establish a server session with *any* machine connected to the net will be those issuing the digital signatures authorized to access that machine, no matter where those people are physically. When that happens, networks will need to be as public as possible, which means, of course, TCP/IP, and not Netware.
I'm all for the end of ridiculous non-TCP/IP protocols, but does anyone believe this point about encrypted IP traffic eliminating the need for firewalls?
I guess I don't trust the ability for people to keep secrets secret. Nothing like refusing to pass packets at all..
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