This is a crucial point. Rotenberg != Berman. As much as I like individuals at CDT, I disagree fairly often with the organization's position. CDT supported the so-called "compromise" that would have replaced the CDA's indecency provision with a ban on material that's "harmful to minors." They've done the wrong thing on Digital Telephony in many cases -- helping phone companies suck in $$$ to make their systems wiretappable more than helping civil liberties -- and continue to do so. They're now silent (read the latest CDT post) on the many problems with SAFE. Then again, CDT may not be good on individual rights in the examples above but they don't support Rotenbergesque privacy regulations either. Again: issue-by-issue alliances. -Declan On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Lee Tien wrote:
Marc Rotenberg never led EFF; he led CPSR-Washington which became EPIC.
Bob may be thinking of Jerry Berman, who ran EFF for a few years, was involved in its actions re Digital Telephony, and then left to start up CDT.