aga <aga@dhp.com> writes: [quoting some jerk]
It still isn't censorship. Censorship, at least in my dictionary, refers to censor, which uses the word "Official" several times. Mr. Gilmore is not an "Official" in a government sense, he maybe in the EFF sense, but this is not an "Official" EFF organ, so that doesn't count.
This is bullshit on several counts. First, censorship does not have to be government-sponsored. Second, John Gilmore's dishonorable actions were carried out in his official capacity as the list owner. That's how they're different, e.g., from the dishonorable actions by the lying shyster Jim Ray.
Even more important is the fact that Mr. Gilmore did not prevent Mr. Vulis from speaking. No restraint on speech implies no censorship. Therefor Mr. Vulis was not censored. Q.E.D.
This is bullshit. John Gilmore "panalized" me because he didn't like what I was saying. First he tried to be sneaky about it, then he openly boasted of his actions.
You all are perfectly free to like or not like what Mr. Gilmore did. However, don't call it censorship because it wasn't.
Yes it WAS!! He censored the mode and manner of the speaker. He censored the personal attacks and the rants and the racial diatribes! And that SUCKS! Gilmore was a fucking asshole for doing it! And Gilmore is the WORST kind of censor that there can be, one who censors a person's "style."
I agree. Moreover John Gilmore pulls plugs in an arbitrary and capricious manner. He did not pull Timmy May's plug for personal attacks, non-crypto- related rants, racial diatribes about "crazy Russians", religous attacks on Mormons, and general ignorance and stupidity. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps