ChowderHett...>>PS: I think we're going to *need* counter-attack scenarios on the net. Like Whit Diffie said, "infowar" will be fought between businesses. Governments are too slow, and not, paradoxically, nearly ubiquitous enough to do the job. All we need is bearer cash, :-), and, someday, machines even can handle it themselves... << Plane murder will happen...again...soon...real soon.The homeland einsatztgruppen can seize all the tweezers and nailclippers they like and burn them in the town square,(insert inane smiley emoticon for the sake of our boston readers.) Plane murder will happen again. Give every cleartrust TM citizen a fucking stinger and IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. More beans mr Hettinger? I think you've had enough. Where oh where is,after all these stale wasted years is bearer cash? Is that a smile :) or a twisted grimace? Whit Diffie's goin' to save us? WTF are you smoking? Has anyone called david Chaum lately? Witless difucker is head of security for,"you have no privacy get over it,yes I donate republican," SUN for fucks sake. The best defence has been and always will be OFFENCE.Sun Tzu style OFFENCE! It has been available here in this archive since 1996.Whit fucking shittie diffie,the sell out motherfucker is helping pTrei and others build the GOLDEN SHIELD. Infowar requires INFOWARRIORS,like bell,CJ and (my trials on s11.)me. rvroman may be the 4th man. "Who wants to participate to help form what will be the LAST revolution on earth, the one that'll take down ALL the governments? James Dalton Bell."