On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:18:51 -0500, message ID 20031221161851.GE32589@clueinc.net You said: : : "I do care that the US fails to adhere to : : international law." implying that US treatment of Saddam violated international law.
You also said; : : "knocking over a crippled tyrant." implying oh dear, that terrible big bully USA is kicking a poor little cripple in his poor little wheelchair, think of the poor little Saddam falling out of his wheelchair.
These images are not appropriate to someone who claims to believe what you just claimed to believe, and you were not saying what you claimed you were saying.
As the thread title says, I am anti war, you support Saddam.
James, you are simply full of shit. I don't believe you're incapable of seeing the difference between calling Saddam a crippled tyrant and "support[ing] Saddam". I do believe you're willfully attempting to twist other people's words, and not even doing a good job of it. "A equals A" reasoning is for high school. If you look at the words I typed, instead of your fantasy-land model of reality, you might notice that you're making a fool of yourself.
I did not suggest killing all the ragheads, and in other forums I have regularly argued against claims about Islam or arabs that would rationalize and justify such an action.
I have no idea what you've said in other forums. I merely pointed out what you have said here.
There is ample evidence that the 'anti war' crowd is largely pro Saddam, evidence in this mailing list, considerably stronger evidence in the newsgroups, evidence in the streets, and in the editorials of the BBC and the telegraph, and evidence in your own utterances. Let us discuss that.
There is ample evidence that you fail to argue about what people have _actually said_, impute motive and behaviour where there is none, and point to a grand Ellsworth Toohey-ish conspiracy that needs to be fought, improbably enough, by a nation-state.
Dean at least has a legitimate excuse to be unhappy about the capture of Saddam, since it queers his chances in the election, but there are an awful lot of other people distressed about the capture and coming execution of Saddam. What is your excuse?
As I said, you're being boring. I suppose someone had to step up to the task of being the resident Choate. I have some cooking to do. Happy holidays, all! -j -- Jamie Lawrence jal@jal.org A priest, a bear, and a programmer walked into a bar. And the bartender said, "What is this, a joke?"