On Tim's war underway: It is not McVeigh's type of ANFO-munitions that threaten the legal-financial-governmental interests but the uncontrolled munitions available to wage war on public policy, commerce, legislation, funding, regulation, intelligence, surveillance and law enforcement. There has been an astonishing range of such munitions discussed on cypherpunks in the three years I've been around, and there's much more in the archives (handily collated in Tim's Cyphernomicon). Crypto is central, to be sure, but hardly the only munition, as many often remind. Indeed, it is noteworthy how many of the broad range of these potentially destructive munitions are not regulated by the EAR and other regimes. As with chemicals, explosives, bio-organisms, mathematics, physics, it takes highly skilled people to advise the regulators on what needs control and when, and not just the finished weapon, but its components and sub-components. (As an example, see ATF's latest list of explosives: http://jya.com/atf050497.txt ) The war underway is often waged at secret councils of scientific information and intelligence used by all government and military agencies (meetings are listed in the Federal Register, regularly reported on jya.com). So it is not the known terrorist-munitions that are worrisome; it's the ones not yet publicized but known to scientists, warfighters and keepers of secrets who keep their fingers crossed and plan for the worst -- say, the President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection (http://www.pccip.gov/ ). It would be instructive to post here uncontrolled munitions available for the war underway, with comments on how to elude control of the burgeoning domestic and global regimes. I'd like to host a running Uncontrolled Munitions List (UML) on jya.com. To be sure, some of that information might be submitted by remailer or prudently encrypted. Use my public key if no other suits: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzHMJLAAAAEEALQamOmaVP3dWAxTWAtoK6SMp8smRTcLweBSLerX0BAAK5s8 c87yZSxKNGHwIejM0MpqbcpTOO5KwMSxAbefGfbOe815TB43pnHMET+itOCmwYsL lHiuy12o63wETsr1d5EdqWh+dS+p35Ne3qiapoADm1KktJcqIudR7MF7a6tdAAUR tB1Kb2huIFlvdW5nIDxqeWFAcGlwZWxpbmUuY29tPg== =c8jN -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----