hey all, I just realized that I haven't seen any info on the Atlantis Project come across the list (at least that I can remember). That seems strange, since it seems to support directly or indirectly all the Cypherpunk ideals. Without going into too much detail (unless there is interest, I suppose), The Atlantis Project is working on establishing a floating city-state called Oceania in the Caribbean, based on a very laissez-faire constitution and code of laws. In my opinion, Oceania is to become what Jefferson would have wanted the US to be today. To receive periodic updates, mail your email (and snail mail) address to oceania@world.std.com . If anyone wants some more info, I've got bunches of back mail I could send out to whoever wants it. BTW, I heartily second Tim May's endorsement of Netcom as an internet provider. Kurt -- */--kurtww@netcom.com--503/297.6555---Finger-for-Public-Key--\* |.Kurt Wiedenhoeft....."What is an Epigram? a dwarfish whole,.| |.RGB Imaging, Inc..... Its body brevity, and wit its soul."..| *\--located-in-Portland-Oregon--------------S.T.-Coleridge---/*