Hey Perry, I think you are taking this too far. I believe that almost nobody (there are always some exceptions) will deny the existence of disease. And while Tim may not be a great doctor and even totally wrong in the case he stated, the original point was not to discuss a specific medical case. You may -or not- agree that there is abuse. You may -or not- be esceptical on the statistics. But there is no point in denying that it is far easier in most cases to fix the symptoms than actually solve the problem. Not that I say doctors do. God forbids. And from the very onset Tim explained his point in not building a mental control society. And there's no point in denying that it is far easier for most societies to have full mental control of their subjects (to which technology aids) than to fix the big social problems. If you can't see the parallel, I'd advise a visit to the doctor. Not to consult him, but to stay with her or him for a while and see what patients demand and how well educated is our society into looking deep to the problems instead of taking shortcuts. My experience as MD before I switched to computing was very illustrating. Long ago, granted, but interesting indeed. jr