From cypherpunks-errors@toad.com Mon Jun 24 22:57:09 1996 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by portal.stwing.upenn.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03496 for <shifter@portal.stwing.upenn.edu>; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:57:07 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00890 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cygnus.com (cygnus.com [140.174.1.1]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00878 for <cypherpunks@toad.com>; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (vznuri@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by cygnus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA21314 for <cypherpunks@toad.com>; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:07:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (vznuri@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id OAA00824; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:05:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199606242105.OAA00824@netcom13.netcom.com> To: cypherpunks@toad.com cc: vznuri@netcom.com Subject: domain name zapping threat by Internic Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:05:57 -0700 From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com> Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk
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I saw in an article a claim, I think, that the internic now charges $100 "rent" per year for a domain. this is really amazing to me, because this has totally changed from a one-time only fee, if correct. is that correct?
There was never a "one-time" fee. You could register as many domains as you wanted whenever you wanted (as long as you weren't violating a trademark or something like that). Usually people with domains would run into charges because they needed someone else (usually an ISP) to run authoritative nameservers for their domain.
I wonder if people are going to try to find a way to "route around" this action by the internic... one wonders if this is just the first in a series of actions by the new spook owners. (SAIC) essentially, if someone wanted to implement a tax or a way to control the internet, the NIC would be an excellent place to start.
I wonder if the NIC has legal authority to yank DNS address like they are doing. it seems one could take them to court and have a pretty good argument that people who run DNS servers are free to run them however they want, and that ultimately this is what determines how routing on the internet is supported, not some overseeing agency like the NIC.
Nothing stops anyone from running their own name server. However, the root servers are what 99% of the nameservers out there point at. No one is going to use dns.joe.schmoe.org as their primary nameserver.
it seems to me that now would be a brilliant time for someone to introduce a "non NIC registration service" that sets up an alternate DNS that guarantees that members will never be charged money. of course that's what the DNS "sort of" started out as...
And then there could be competition, which could potentially create some bad scenarios. What if one registration service refused to propagate their domains to other registration services? -- Shifter shifter@portal.stwing.upenn.edu -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzF+qeMAAAEEALdaUpOTi8EtNjZMA9URTXGmQq1NPdyRSx2JXhQ7Q8Yz9qxU q3tqRtlydRqp37VPmygibGB8eS7RptqolTlYvrVMHXSDcZjKpgpZA9d+3rCKUaLM F9Hvltl2EafIEspVoNUYahpdXof4oMjs2sKGzJO8aDwyM34pRaicZR8SZJz9AAUR tClTaGlmdGVyIDxzaGlmdGVyQHBvcnRhbC5zdHdpbmcudXBlbm4uZWR1Pg== =Eucp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----