On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 07:37:26PM -0800, John Young wrote:
... What I like about the ring-in-the-flesh crowd is their pleasure in grossing out the stodgers. Makes me wish I still had that knack instead of only the memories.
Hey, John -- wear some of that shit, and I promise to be grossed out. But seriously, has anyone considered that maybe the problem is Tim May? His hate-filled ignorance is a real impediment to anyone who might otherwise be interested in "the cause." His spews are pretty distasteful, and to him, anyone who didn't start cp a zillion years ago is just an ankle biter come-lately. I've only been on the list for 3 years, but I'd say that things were a lot more interesting before (In-) Choat jumped ship. As to John's comments, they're right on: getting subscribed is a major PIA, and even finding out where the information about the list *is* is non-trivial for the uninitiated. Lack of cooperation from list managers is just the tip of the iceberg... unfriendliness to wanna-be participants is endemic. So "decline" is the exact right word: the same people, more or less, with attrition: a downward curve. And a big "fuck you, too" to anyone who thinks otherwise. -- Greg