I made no claims, you did, rather I asked you sarcastically to validate your claims, after which you further assumed on top of other mistaken assumptions, that I made claims countering yours, which I did not. Perhaps you should examine your own words. IMHO, you are a misguided armchair general who sees yourself as equal to those scumbags that have risen in power to lead or enslave nations since you seem to constantly say "they should have done X, and not Y" and are constantly seeking to go against with reality with "W should be the case, not X" even though W cannot happen while X does. Yes, that is my unprofessional opinion. And yet, while impotent to achive your views of reality, you insist on sharing it, as if anyone gives a rats ass. It was entertaining, but it's getting old. I doubt that it would be long before you'll be sporting a tin foil hat. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ <--*-->:and our people, and neither do we." -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + : War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
-- On 20 Oct 2004 at 21:27, Sunder wrote:
I repeat:
And you were there and kept an eye on each and every guard, interrogator, and prisoner to make sure that the POW's weren't tortured?
We know torture did not occur, because lots of people have been released who were and are extremely hostile to the US, and who do not claim torture.
And you were there and witnessed the attrocities that said prisoners committed in order to be placed in Gitmo?
Why do you assert that the US must be guilty unless it can be proven innocent by extraordinary evidence, but the detainees must be innocent unless they can be proven guilty by extraordinary evidence?
Doubtless there are some innocents in Gautenamo - but the usual reason they are there is for being foreigners in Afghanistan in the middle of a war with no adequate explanation.
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