Oh yes....and how can we forget... for all its superiority....it seems to have dropped SLIP/PPP because that made them have to deal with the customers too much. Makes you feel all loved eh? , + . /\_-\ ==================---------------------- . ` . <((_))> ==============-------------------- ` x . \- \/ ===========------------------ , /\_-\(:::::::::)/\_-\ matthew e. cable - systems administrator . . <((_)) MindVox ((_))> phantom access technologies inc . \- \/(:::::::::)\- \/ wozzeck@phantom.com + ` /\_-\ ===========------------------ . , * ' <((_))> ==============-------------------- + x \- \/ ==================----------------------