More drama unfolds. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.leitl.org 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:47:31 -0500 From: Secure Beer <almostt@beer.com> Reply-To: remops@lexx.shinn.net To: remailer-operators@anon.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Remops] And when he returns in February? Last night I had my life threatened. The death threat was posted here and on the remops list. The message in question is <OQYAQQO737236.1811574074@anonymous> from the APA-S thread Re: A comparison of Frog-Admin, the Script-Kiddie, Anonymous Trolls and other plagues of the privacy community. The author of the death threat posted anonymously and used the nick Sade. But the writing style and especially the last few lines reveal that it was Frog-Admin who threatened my life. "Thank you, Champerty, for letting me experiencing the same kind of double ecstasy: first when I was crucifiing your ass and your friends', and now when you make me remember those delicious moments." That is part2 of a 2-part threat. He chooses to write part1 in his mother tongue, perhaps not knowing that I am bilingual. In French, he quotes from Marquis de Sade describing how Saint-Fond anally rapes Juliette and, while raping her, orders her head sliced off so that the clenching of her muscles at the moment of her decapitation might intensify his sexual pleasure. Champerty is a gender-neutral pseudonym. And although I am male I can't help wondering whether Frog-Admin thought he was threatening a woman when he decided to include that description of the sexual torture and murder of an 18 year old woman. Male or female. It's a death threat. Im my country it's criminal. It's one of the worse things he's done. And, as we are beginning to realize, he has done a lot of sleazy, under-handed things. Where did this rage come from, you might ask? In addition to an ego already on steroids, Frog-Admin was exposéd recently by an anonymous poster as being the individual responsible for much of the floods and trolling in APA-S over the past two years. Frog-Admin assumed that this anonymous poster must have been his arch rival from 1998-2000: Champerty. This is a knee-jerk reaction for him. You see, he can't get his head around the idea that there is more than one person who thinks he is wrong. Embarrassed and humiliated by the exposé he has announced that he will be closing down his remailer tomorrow (Wed Dec 12 2001) . He has also had a bit of a temper tantrum as the deluge of anti-Champerty anti-Boschloo and pro-Frog messages demonstrates. As he explains himself in a recent message "You didn't expect me to remain silent did you?" He has promised to be back from his vacation in February 2002 and intends to put his remailer back online. What do remailer users think about Frog-Admin now? Is this the type of remailer operator that you want in your remailer network? And operators? I ask you to please, for once, take a public stand for or against whether Frog-Admin will be welcomed back in February after the shit he has pulled over the years and especially in recent days. Death threats cannot be dismissed as merely "bad form". Flooding APA-S, discrediting and silencing critics, attacking ISPs, scapegoating innocents like TB and Orange Admin. These things should not be tolerated simply because they don't directly affect YOUR individual remailer. Farout Admin has declared himself supportive of Frog Admin and hopes he returns in February. What about the rest of the operators and stats maintainers? 'Time to take a stand. Secure Beer (formerly Champerty) almostt AT beer DOT com Beer Mail, brought to you by your friends at beer.com. _______________________________________________ Remops mailing list Remops@lexx.shinn.net http://lexx.shinn.net/mailman/listinfo/remops