On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:19:12AM -0000, Dr. Evil wrote:
I know you were being ironic, but PR is an important consideration, far more important than is generally understood on this list. You [...] 1. No ad hominem attacks.
2. No anti-governemnt ranting.
3. A few select incoherent ranters would need to be kicked out for causing excessive harm to the signal-to-noise ratio.
4. Let's focus on PR, marketing and psychology instead of technology, legal debate, and confrontation.
If a bunch of people are interested I'll create it. If not, that's ok too.
I think everyone understands PR is important to some extent. But some reasons why your list is a bad idea: * the folks most interested in championing certain products are those who run companies; they're also the ones in the best position to do so * there's an opportunity cost involved in signing up with a new list. most of us nowadays are trying to cut down, not increase, subscriptions * the volume of messages on cpunx, with lne.com and a threaded mailreader, is perfectly manageable; these discussions can happen here * good ideas bubble up from the froth; saying no "confrontation" is a sure way to ensure the better posters don't subscript to your list for fear of getting the boot if they call someone a flaming idiot * the folks you do get on the list will probably not have a clue what they're talking about beyond "marketing cypherpunks is good". hint: you want some PR people and journalists, and you probably won't get 'em * cypherpunk technologies are destructive to the status quo and really can't be honestly spun in any other way -Declan