Dave, Headline news in the UK is of a new world record. "On Tuesday the chancellor told MPs how the entire child benefit database was sent by a junior official from HMRC in Newcastle to the audit office in London through courier TNT on 18 October." ... and was lost: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7104945.stm At least this has provoked some sensible (for a change) debate on the care of personal data. The BBC Newsnight had a good debate on the subject last night including Ross Andeson. At the moment the video is still online via <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm > and will be for a week I believe. At least there may be one silver lining to this cloud, there is now widespread comment that the security risk of large centralized databases may actually be appreciated and this may "have dealt a body blow to the government's plans for a national ID card scheme". I'll believe that when I see it. Denis. ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE