(from /.) http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/eol/ has a good rant by John Walker on how NAT turns users into consumers. Also Speak Freely maintenance is ending. Sic transit unix to PC secure vox. Note that PGPfone devel ended a while ago, unsupporting PC to Mac secvox. Nautilus is AFAIK PC to PC only. John is also pessimistic about 1. IPv6 deployment and 2. the return of NAT'd broadband users to non-consumer (ie, potential server aka publisher) status. As always, Walker is worth a read. ------ "The right to be left alone - the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by civilized men." -- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis