At 03:58 AM 9/14/2001 +0000, jmalcolm@uraeus.com wrote:
If my memory is correct, chefren was the chief proponent of building in surveillance technologies on the IETF RAVEN list, which was chartered to decide the response of the IETF to government requests in that regard.
Yes, that's him. In the course of those conversations it was revealed that he was an employee or principal of a European company which was producing a line of key-escrow crypto products, and he was hoping to bias the standards towards creating a market for his otherwise distasteful and shameful merchandise. So it's not surprising (but not encouraging) to see him reappear, marketing the same tired apologies for his unwanted and useless garbage, seeking to create a market by forcing people to buy a product they won't spend a dime on unless it's at gunpoint. -- Greg Broiles gbroiles@well.com "We have found and closed the thing you watch us with." -- New Delhi street kids