Bruce Baugh's latest missive inspired me to send the following to my new racist friends, and also, coincidentally, to those at the Wiesenthal Center, law enforcement agencies, and so on who also read the list. Posts to Stormfront-L are moderated to keep out any non-racist "noise," but I assume that this message will be approved. Don really has no other choice. I imagine that this message will inspire greater awareness of and interest in cryptographic applications, though I do not have great confidence that it can do much to address my friends' cluelessness as such. I was not inclined to give them any real specifics on how to obtain and employ cypherpunkish tools. After all, we're not very close friends. -rich ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 03 Feb 96 08:21:32 0800 From: Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views Publishing <rich@c2.org> To: stormfront-l@stormfront.org, rich.graves@leland.stanford.edu Subject: Publicizing Stormfront-L; Internet privacy resources; Copyrights -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I was surprised and disappointed to learn recently that there are no public archives of the Stormfront list. Many organizations, most of whom are strongly opposed to Stormfront's goals, seem to be keeping private logs of everything that is said on Stormfront-L, but to date none have made their archives public. I find this silly. It's an open list, after all, and you know that people who do not share your goals are reading the list. With all this talk about The Enemy and free expression, it's odd that only The Enemy has accurate chronicles, and that you deny the general public the right to read what you say. To address this oversight, I will be opening up my personal archives of Stormfront-L to public view on c2.org's Web server. I haven't worked out the details yet, but I'll probably be using hypermail, if this use is judged to satisfy the license terms. Don't bother unsubscribing me. There are lots of people who would be only too happy to send me their copies of list mail, anonymized. Don't bother moving to another list, either, unless you don't mind losing all members of the list whose loyalties cannot be established beyond a reasonable doubt. See, you can't exactly announce on the list that you're moving to a new list where The Enemy can't find you. Despite the fact that it has always been trivial to determine the list membership, I plan to respect list members' privacy by giving you all a day to avail yourselves of the large number of anonymity and double- blind pseudonymity resources available on the Internet. For information on the most well-known remailer, the penet.fi anonymous contact service, send email to both help@anon.penet.fi (sends you the FAQ) and ping@anon.penet.fi (assigns you an ID). The disadvantages of the penet.fi service are that it is slow (mail is delayed as much as 24 hours) and that it is not really secure (records of which IDs belong to which real email address are kept on a computer in Finland, and are therefore available to very determined law enforcement officers and other armed thugs). Those with a technical bent may wish to look into more secure cypherpunk remailers, but they require some brains. Even I don't really use them. Alternatively, if one or more of you have the means and incentive to set up a public Stormfront-L archive on the Internet, and very soon, then please let me know, and I will drop my plans. The advantages of an official public list archive run by someone who shares your goals should be obvious. Of course, private archives will still be kept by third parties in order to ensure that the official archive remains accurate and up to date. Checks and balances, natch. I would be happy to provide some technical assistance if you need help getting started. On to copyrights. The issue of who owns the copyrights to the Zundelsite pages has been raised both privately and publicly (very publicly). It appears that Mr. Zundel has made his choice. The Zundelsite materials are in the public domain. Anyone can use them, abuse them, modify them, or sell them without violating anyone's intellectual property rights. May a thousand Zundelsites bloom. You may also include his works on BBSes, CD-ROMs, and T-shirts that you sell for personal profit. I'm working on a T-shirt for the "Zundel Detournement" contest right now. I doubt any of you would be interested in buying one, though. Still, it would be much better if a formal network of mirror sites was established. That way you'd have a channel for receiving updates direct from Zundel's webmasters. Unfortunately, it seems that Mr. Zundel is embarrassed by the thought of being associated with the people who actually want to mirror his site for the content. He has had to publicly distance himself from the very proud white supremacist Joe Bunkley, for example. Most sincerely, - -rich P.S. You may have heard it reported recently that the author of PGP, which I am using (if this message does not bear a valid PGP digital signature, it is probably a forgery) is a Neo-Nazi sympathizer. This was untrue, and Phil considers this suggestion to be a serious libel. The newspaper that ran the allegation posted a very public and detailed retraction. Of course some Neo-Nazi sympathizers do use PGP, and so can you. In fact I'd love to exchange key signatures with one of you guys in the San Francisco Bay Area (I'm sure there are a lot of you here). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMRMa2Y3DXUbM57SdAQFQfwP+LV5H6+YPv9E7HHfmgcm7dQLDf/layB8s xzUjH5QX8zdWNE5t+9gQt3W7sG3pN1IQ32IxclcmlMBZIQmVzmZ7rbsGq07gwpPc I7yLqK0KAz8tNND+ZBtXX/lLQ4zu46cb6p2fJsMDS5Gv+cWA+smNE44CiM9reeNX xlQAV5UeeLA= =LpPb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----