I've searched for other references to this and haven't found any... I work at a very large ISP and because of my job function, I would need to (a) know about such an order; (b) supervise its implementation; and (c) actively monitor compliance with it. And I can tell you that we've received no such order or even had a sniff that one was coming down (and yes, we do get served by various LEAs to disclose account details and account contents -- but they have always been specific court orders in the past; and no, no one has shown up with a Carnivore box under the arm asking us if they could plug it into the nearest router port). In addition to the blanket statement that Baker makes, there's also the suspicion that he doesn't really understand the subject.... what does he mean by "CALEA compliance"? Does he mean archiving packet data (if so, the notion is ludicrous)? Does he mean archiving just email POP3 contents? Does he mean archiving web/ftp space? What about colo boxes? CALEA as it applies to voice networks (packet switched or not -- most voice networks are packet switched already, just not necessarily IP packets) is really an expression of two specific things: a) transaction logging detail (Acme calls Beta on a specific date and time and for a specific duration) and b) the ability to easily and quickly get copies of the packet stream (the voice conversations and any data associated with them or in them) to a centralized distribution at which such data is made available to the LEAs. But this is a different thing entirely from data IP packet networks. So is this guy (Stu Baker) just blowing smoke? Mike
Original Message from Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:48:03 -0700:> "FBI requires ISPs to permit easy surveillance; EFF founder agrees" http://www.politechbot.com/p-02671.html
"Stu Baker replies to Politech post on ISPs and EFF founder" http://www.politechbot.com/p-02672.html
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