"Yes, unnoticeable exposures to blue asbestos does cause harm in a witchcraft like manner -- but while very few people have been exposed to blue asbestos, almost all jury awards are based on witchcraft like harm, where the person is harmed by some imperceptible magical agent that is impossible to notice." I think you're overstating things here. The Manville settlements (which forced Manville into Ch13, as I remember) were jury awarded and to date comprise the lion's share of settlement $$$. And in those cases the harm was no exactly witchcraft-like: only a a few (literally 3 or 4) of the miners were left alive to collect. The rest had died of asbestosis. As for abating the NYC public schools, that was a giant boondoggle that benefited many corrupt parties in NYC (I could go into great detail, but that would make it too easy to locate me in meatspace). A funy story...this guy I went to HS with got fired from the NYC School Construction authority for going to his bosses and demanding a piece of the action! (This guy was and is a famous eccentric.) So to some extent I agree, but the "witchcraft" doesn't have a basis in reality. Call it a "tag-along" boondoggle if you want. -TD
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> To: cypherpunks@minder.net Subject: Re: Hippies Banning Crysotile Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 13:57:27 -0700
-- James A. Donald:
In reality, if someone is exposed to enough asbestos to be a problem, he is painfully aware of it. Only a minuscule minority among those now receiving stupendous awards were exposed to that level of asbestos.
On 3 May 2003 at 21:49, Tyler Durden wrote:
Not really. This party line is equally hot air. Basically, there are two main modes of asbestos related disease: asbestosis and melothemeoma
But almost none of the money currently being awarded is going to people with absestosis or mesothelioma. It is almost all going to people with "asbestos-related pleural and pulmonary disease" -- a fictitious medical category that includes any deviation from perfect health in any part of any person's breathing system.
The form of asbestos most closely associated with this is crocidilyte, which is needle-like and a beautiful dark blue in color. That form of asbestos can cause cancer even in very low exposures.
Yes, unnoticeable exposures to blue asbestos does cause harm in a witchcraft like manner -- but while very few people have been exposed to blue asbestos, almost all jury awards are based on witchcraft like harm, where the person is harmed by some imperceptible magical agent that is impossible to notice.
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