At 12:27 AM 11/10/98 GMT, Adam Back wrote:
Christopher Petro writes:
In other words Jim, Fuck You. I, and I'd bet most people here, including Mr. May, are perfectly willing, and hell even eager to pay their share, to assume their social responcibility, they just get very, very angry at having to pay OTHER peoples social responcibility, and get very, very angry at having to pay for other shit (Senate Luncheons and Swimming Pools, the Militaries greatly inflated budget, all the waste that is todays federal government).
--interrupt-- I would question, sagely (IMHO), do not confuse the military budget- you know, the Military budget- with the NSA portion of the military budget- last I heard they were getting about 1/3rd. Meanwhile, the lowly Military- Navy at least, is operating at 3 or 4 X the prior tempo with a significantly reduced portion of that military budget. Gee, is the current administration trying to reduce military infrastructure by wearing it out- and not purchasing repair parts or replacements??? Or all the dollars going towards the DNA database, Echelon, and ??? --resume usual conversation--
What is annoying is "charity" (social security) at the point of a gun. Our "conscience" is being decided by government which is acting as a broker for those lobby for their "need" and for your assets to be stolen and redistributed to them.
What people aren't willing to pay for shouldn't happen. Period. If that means people starve well those complaining loudest had better dig deeper into their pockets.
Anything else is socialism tending to facism, as Hayek argues in The Road to Serfdom.
No state can govern those who don't wish to be governed, violence or no.
Yes, but a state can kill those who don't wish to be governed. Can and does routinely.
That's what's so interesting about cyberspace, once the payment systems get there -- government thugs can't beat up, murder, or incarcerate anonymous nyms. _Then_ Jim's "No state can govern those who don't wish to be governed" starts to become true.
Adam
If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intention of doing you good, you should run for your life. -stolen from a cypherpunk sig