Newsgroups: talk.politics.crypto,alt.privacy,alt.privacy.anon-server,news.admin.policy,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.conspiracy From: ld231782@turner.lance.colostate.edu (L. Detweiler) Subject: Re: CRYPTOANARCHIST INFILTRATION ALERT Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Dec19.075042.7988@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 07:50:42 GMT References: <PMETZGER.93Dec6212145@snark.lehman.com> <1993Dec7.235821.25954@oracle.us.oracle.com> <pgf.755746191@srl03.cacs.usl.edu> <1993Dec17.001757.1814@oracle.us.oracle.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: turner.lance.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 021193BETA PL3] Followup-To: talk.politics.crypto,alt.privacy,alt.privacy.anon-server,news.admin.policy,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.conspiracy I seem to have missed much of this thread. My news server seems to have scrolled off all the interesting articles. I was hoping more cryptoanarchists would show up to call me insane. Quite a pity. David Criswell (dcriswel@oracle.uucp) wrote: : There's only one in the phone book. Cupertino's not all that : big, and Szabo's a fairly uncommon name. If I were, umm, you : know, in Mr. Detweiler's mental state, this might lead me to : conclude that somebody was lifting "pseudos" from Bay Area : phonebooks, and the one in the directory does not post. I : don't really care about it enough to call him. Mr. Criswell, could you describe the difficulty of getting fake names into a phone book? is this trivial or impossible? This is not to in any way imply that N.Szabo is such an occurence. I don't know why everyone on the internet gives every single email address they meet the benefit of the doubt. They all should get the detriment of the suspicion. But what do I know? I am just a paranoid lunatic who is progressing quite nicely on Prozac and intense psychoanalysis, thank you very much. Imagine that someone has made an art, science, and religion to pseudospoof. Why would they do it? because there is immense power behind such a technique. And minor barriers like phone numbers and phone books would be the first mediums they corrupt. People trust phone numbers -- they believe that if you can supply a phone number, you are are not a pseudonym. What is the basis for this belief? The foundation? Nothing but naive trust that is easily betrayed by those who have build their lives around deceptions. Don't care? well, don't blame me when tomorrow you find out that the cryptoanarchists own the largest share of the world mafia, and have succeeded in doing so by coordinating it over the Internet. Even better yet, let you be tortured by them all your life without ever discovering the true source of your wretched desperation. -- ld231782@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU