Adam Back writes: : : Dr Roberts writes: : > Perhaps there is a way to turn the training on the trainers? Civil : > disobediance is the best way to do this. Were a relatively small : > number of people, a thousand for instance, to post the "RSA in 3 : > lines" code to the world, it would be highly unlikely that anybody at : > all would be prosecuted, : : Many 1000s of people have exported it. See also Vince Cate's arms : trafficker page. : : http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ : : Around 3000 T-shirts were sold also. Guess there are a fair number of : people practicing civil disobedience in the US as a result. They're : still selling, see: : : http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/uk-shirt.html : : for order info. : : While it's probably technically illegal to export, it clearly doesn't : get you in trouble to export it. Raph Levien sent off a Commodity : Jurisdiction Request together with a sample T-shirt to ask permission : to export the T-shirt under the ITAR regulations. They did not answer : his request. I presume that they viewed either a "yes" or a "no" as a : loose for them. If they say no, they open themselves for mockery in : the press, if they say yes, we progress the situation. Export on : paper? Floppy? Internet? Bigger programs. Under the new Commerce Department export regulations it appears that encryption software printed as hard copy---and I think that T-shirts are hard enough for this purpose---can be freely exported. But the same material in electronic form may not be exported or placed on a web site without a license. So the T-shirts are now OK, but under the EAR it is still an offense to send the code in a sigfile to an international e-mail list. It is possible that the application for permission to export the T-shirt may have influenced this result. (What is Raph Levien's e-mail address? I would like to ask him the details about his application for a Commodity Jurisdictionb Request. It should be an amusing footnote in my casebook for my course in computers and the law.) -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH EMAIL: junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu NOTE: junger@pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu no longer exists