"15 grams or less of marijuana, the poll found" 15 Grams? Now I haven't smoked since about 84, but as I understand it 15 grams these days could get a whole housing project high. Can anyone confirm this? (OK, an exageration, but 15 grams is enough stock for a petty dealer to keep on hand, no?) Hey Canadians, don't bogart the bowl, eh? -TD
From: Tim Meehan <cypherpunks@salvagingelectrons.com> To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Good things gro-o-o-o-w, in Ontario-o-o-o... Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 11:00:59 -0400
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No laws ban possession of marijuana, court rules Landmark Ontario decision goes beyond the decriminalization proposed by Ottawa
By COLIN FREEZE AND KIM LUNMAN
UPDATED AT 10:53 AM EDT Saturday, May. 17, 2003
TORONTO and OTTAWA -- Canada has no laws prohibiting marijuana possession, an Ontario Superior Court judge said yesterday in a ruling that will be binding on judges in the province and may soon be picked up across the country.
"For today, and for the Victoria Day weekend, it's a very pleasant state of affairs for recreational pot smokers," said criminal lawyer Paul Burstein, who helped argue the case successfully.
It was the second time that a Windsor teenager who was caught smoking pot while playing hooky in a park has been found not to have broken any law because, the courts ruled, there are effectively no longer any marijuana laws to break.
Mr. Justice Steven Rogin upheld yesterday a lower-court decision, based on complex arguments, that has already had far-reaching influence.
The new ruling means that proposed federal legislation to decriminalize possession of a small amount of marijuana would actually "recriminalize" it, defence lawyers said yesterday.
While the new law would impose fines for pot possession, yesterday's ruling effectively eliminated any sanctions for simple pot possession in Ontario, they said.
The decision "has effectively erased the criminal prohibition on marijuana possession from the law books in Ontario," said Brian McAllister, the lawyer for the accused teenager.
Courts in Nova Scotia and PEI have already put prosecutions on hold pending yesterday's ruling, he said, and lawyers in other provinces were similarly watching for this decision.
The initial ruling in favour of the Windsor teenager, identified only as J. P., had a significant spillover effect and the higher-court decision is expected to be even more influential.
The federal Department of Justice, which appealed the initial ruling, is planning another appeal.
The government still plans to introduce its marijuana-decriminalization legislation later this month.
Most Canadians are behind the idea, according to an Ipsos-Reid poll released yesterday.
It found that 55 per cent of Canadians did not believe smoking marijuana should be a criminal offence, while 42 per cent thought it should be.
More telling, 63 per cent of respondents supported Ottawa's plans to issue tickets and fines similar to traffic violations to those caught with 15 grams or less of marijuana, the poll found.
Justice Minister Martin Cauchon has said he is seeking the changes so that people who are caught with small amounts will not clog up the court system, potentially receiving criminal records.
For the moment, however, marijuana possession remains the most frequently laid drug charge in Canada even though courts are becoming increasingly resistant to hearing those cases.
Jim Leising of the federal Justice Department said in an interview that he was "disappointed" by yesterday's decision and will push to have the case heard quickly in the Ontario Court of Appeal.
"We are are still of the opinion that the law against marijuana is valid," he said.
Mr. Leising said prosecutions will continue, although some may be put on hold.
But defence lawyers involved in J.P.'s case said Ontarians facing possession charges should fight Crown prosecutors' attempts to delay their cases until the law is clarified.
Ontarians who are charged with marijuana possession after yesterday's ruling could consider suing police for wrongful arrest, they said.
"Anybody who's got a charge before the court should definitely take advantage of this," Mr. Burstein said.
Multiple court battles to strike down the marijuana laws are taking place, he said, leaving Ottawa besieged from many directions.
"The courts keep firing big shots into the sides of the government's ship," Mr. Burstein said.
"They're sinking lower and lower. They are bailing it out with a cup."
The Ipsos-Reid poll -- of 1001 people, conducted between May 13 and May 15 -- found people still have some reservations about decriminalization.
The poll results are considered to reflect accurately the feelings of the entire country to within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
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