-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Further thoughts on this matter... I think that we should escalate the level of liability a potential attacker has to face when attempting to compromise a security system. We should have laptops equipped with high explosives, such that the laptop detonates after a certain number of failed logins. Let's see how popular laptop theft is then. Booby-traps as a standard part of facility security. Let an intruder bypass the retina scanner if he wants, but have him face a nail gun as soon as he opens the door. Cyanide gas enabled car alarms. (I'm flexible on whether it is actually cyanide, or something better). Currently some cars won't start without a specific ignition key with an embedded chip. I say, let the car start if hot-wired... then a few minutes later, automatically roll the windows, force the locks, and gas the fucker who stole the car. No damage to the upholstery. As for computer systems, we should have IDS systems that retaliate to attacks. It seems to me to be perfectly rational to design a firewall/IDS that determines the source of the attack, and then neutralizes it. And I think this last suggestion would be the least likely to land people in jail. Though I still to see someone do a C4-enabled laptop with corresponding Win2K GINA. :) - -MW- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 Comment: No comment. iQEVAwUBOeUJPisFU3q6vVI9AQFHYAf+PdrnTEviE5vt5swkjoj0iVNcJOpyeSub NPEqy9HXOHp6nVJlPwrGHhlPTFzcAjWo/3uLx3tJ5XRvJG6IUhhzLqe4TLH7CstH aLQ79tu87im+083XcmoF9U+P3YRm4HTbhG24CQ3m7QhSZJHoIhJatpTXZBdGOvJ0 WvsuVt9vOd1c1v0gL/g/exxSIRE05M30gmvJ/sHp0nEiCSzXShvTqh7olX77lRMm y0DuMjlP2AyCbM38Kr8BdXyecRzJ9MV6ND1B+aaq5azu2ke6h1rIXlYGcbZHJF74 O488dxPEmTIcE5mXX9TqoTC3fpsL7JnPgXrokkXR2xt0oeAGP6q4FA== =8EvB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----