Hello, thank you. there was a small typo in the link you posted. it is http://web.monkeysphere.info/ some questions. Monkey sphere says: Everyone who has used a web browser has been interrupted by the "Are you sure you want to connect?" warning message, which occurs when the browser finds the site's certificate unacceptable. But web browser vendors (e.g. Microsoft or Mozilla) should not be responsible for determining whom (or what) the user trusts to certify the authenticity of a website, or the identity of another user online. The user herself should have the final say, and designation of trust should be done on the basis of human interaction. The Monkeysphere project aims to make that possibility a reality. will try this out. in the meantime other questions related to browser certificates 1. How do we know which CA's (root/intermediate) have certified a domain xyz.com? 2. How do we know the CA trust chain. i.e. who all are the root CA's and who are the intermediate CA's and which root CA is associated with a given intermediate CA? 3. Can we make the browser notify us if a domain was certified by an intermediate CA? 4. Say domain xyz.com is certified by CA 'A' and CA 'B' whose (root/intermediate) certificates are available in the browser. if i find CA 'B' to be malicious how can i get domain xyz.com certified by CA 'A'? Thank you, Sarad. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Ted Smith <teddks@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ted Smith <teddks@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates To: "Sarad AV" <jtrjtrjtr2001@yahoo.com>, "R.A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com> Cc: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:05 PM More promising (from my point of view) is killing X.509 and replacing it with OpenPGP, which is what www.mokeysphere.info is doing.
"Sarad AV" <jtrjtrjtr2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Soghoian says they are releasing a Firefox add-on to notify users when a sitebs certificate is issued from an authority in a different country than the last certificate the userbs browser accepted from the site.
If you have any further information on it or any other countermeasures implemented, please do keep us in loop. this attack is upsetting.
Sarad.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, R.A. Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com> wrote:
From: R.A. Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com> Subject: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates To: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:29 AM Begin forwarded message:
From: privacy@vortex.com Date: March 24, 2010 3:53:44 PM AST To: privacy-list@vortex.com Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:34:27 -0400 From: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: [IP] Surveillance via bogus SSL
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From: Matt Blaze <mab@crypto.com> Date: March 24, 2010 3:09:19 PM EDT To: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: Surveillance via bogus SSL certificates
Dave,
For IP if you'd like.
Over a decade ago, I observed that commercial certificate authorities protect you from anyone from whom they are unwilling to take money. That turns out to be wrong; they don't even do
Chris Soghoian and Sid Stamm published a
simple "appliance"-type box, marketed to law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US and elsewhere,
certificates issued by *any* cooperative certificate authority to act as a "man-in-the-middle" for encrypted web
Their paper is available at
http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf
What I found most interesting (and
surprising) is
surveillance is widespread enough to support fairly mature, turnkey commercial products.B B It carries some significant disadvantages for law enforcement -- most particularly it can be
detected.
I briefly discuss the implications of
certificates that. paper today that describes a that uses bogus traffic. that this sort of potentially can be this kind of surveillance at http://www.crypto.com/blog/spycerts/
Also, Wired has a story here:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/packet-forensics/
-matt
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