-- James A. Donald
Anyone who wants to argue that the guys in the two towers had it coming, and poor Saddam is a victim, puts himself in the corner with the people who are stupid, evil, and losers.
Jamie Lawrence:
Anyone who babbles such inane false relations is a dope.
James A. Donald;
You have just told us that poor little Saddam is a victim. Care to give us your take on the two towers?
Tim May:
Straw man. You keep bringing up the World Trade Center attack as if Saddam ordered it
Not a straw man. Those who think poor little Saddam was a victim, for the most part also think that the US 'created" the afghan resistance, and, particularly if they were European, think the that Americans had 9/11 coming to them. Saddam was not behind the 9/11 attack, but he was and is allied with those that were, and, the point of my argument, western socialists allied with him and them. Bin Laden, in obviously violation of the Koran which mandates capitalism, has taken socialism on board, Saddam, originally a secularist, has taken Sunni Islamicism on board, bridging what small ideological gap there was between him and Bin Laden, and western socialists are alarmingly willing to overlook the arabism and islamicism of the few remaining socialists in power. During the invasion of Iraq, most of the arab news feeds, or at least their corresponding english language websites, were reasonably fair and balanced, while the BBC went over the top with Saddamite propaganda. When I read the Al Jazeera web site, most of the entirely over the top propaganda came from western correspondents. Al Jazeera's own correspondants were for the most part OK. The western intellectuals are not reacting to this as a war of caucasians vs semites, but a war of ideologies -- German originated ideology vs English originated ideologies, with Saddam and Bin Laden incarnating Heidegger and Bush incarnating Locke. Very likely Saddam had nothing to do with causing 9/11, but Chomsky and the BBC did have something to do with causing 9/11. When one sees someone arguing that Americans had 9/11 coming, he frequently starts quoting improbable "facts" that originate from Chomsky, and backs them up with one of the nuttier BBC correspondents. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG G+7kcEq4buQwoHeoHjVTqtFSzhPgHya8+qSEMCmf 4DCEXYnOji1pOndYuB0c/QAbhZbtw9okutswHAyjN