Go away and leave us alone, Mr. Detweiler. I am losing my patience. I use to think you had something to contribute; I used to think that it was cool that someone from my hometown was on the list; I used to think you were kind of funny. This stopped about the time you (quite seriously, and in some detail) compared me to Darth Vader... I convinced you I wasn't the "Hydra", so I was just a seducing minion. You have become major pest, you have done more than anyone else to disrupt this list and make it next to impossible for real work to get done on it (including work that would help mitigate problems of the kind you believe your "enemies" are perpetrating on you.) You persist in baiting the less-restrained members of the list with your antaigonistic, paranoid, policial/social rants, which have accomplished nothing producive, except to sap the energy of people who would otherwise be writing code, engaging in PR for our cause, educating one another, and working towards a consensus or at least an honest delineation of where we disagree as mature individuals (rather than characterizing folks as evil spawn of darkness). Note that your postmaster, when I contacted him, made it clear that he had instructed you to stop doing whatever it was you were doing that was upsetting people so much. If anything, you have gotten worse; you have turned this thing into a nonsensical, paranoid, one-man jihad against cypherpunks on a variety of *other* lists, while continuing your activities on this one. I intend to go beyond your postmaster on the next try, to various former classmates and old friends of mine who are computation center employees, faculty, and administration members at CSU now. Unless, of course, you cut this shit out and leave us alone, or at least go back on whatever medication you were taking before you went from a mildly annoying over- eager wannabe to a full-fledged psychopath. Doug -- ---------------- /\ Douglas Barnes cman@illuminati.io.com / \ Chief Wizard (512) 448-8950 (d), 447-7866 (v) / () \ Illuminati Online metaverse.io.com 7777 /______\