Goodbye I am leaving cypherpunks for a while, perhaps forever. Why should anyone handle a high volume list as a list and not as a newsgroup? Our tools for handling newgroups are superior to our tools for handling mailing lists. The reason to prefer mailing lists is that the very inconvenience keeps out the ignorant masses. Word initially spreads person to person, and intelligent and highly motivated people make most of the contributions, Thus the glory days of cypherpunks, an insider club of the best and brightest, far superior to the common herd, where we planned and organized for a world where the ignorant masses can no longer rob and harass their superiors, a world where the elite can live the good life in freedom and comfort and abandon the useless worthless masses to wander blindly into ruin, despair, and slavery, lost in a world they cannot understand, and will no longer have the power to smash. In those days we forged the weapons and planned the strategies, defending the net against the enemies of freedom. But with the passage of time, we got the same half human trash as you encounter in the newsgroups, and less satisfactory tools to filter them. The glory days are long past, and cannot be revived by forming a new mailing list. Perhaps I will see you guys on Usenet, by and by. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd@echeque.com