See what jerk tcmay(fart) is: he sends crypto discussions to the "cypher punks" mailing list, where crypto is off-topic now. "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> writes:
I've noticed a few references in the press, and maybe on this list, to the idea that because some bad things may be done with untraceable payments (true Chaumian digicash, not the watered down version offering only one-sided untraceability), that governments will "not allow" such untraceable payments.
Fuck the gubmint. Fuck the patent law. Patent law, copyright law, libel law - none of that shit has any relevance in the cyberspace. Do I understand right that David Chaum no longer runs ecash? Then I see no ethical reason not to implement his original ideas with full anonymity *NOW*. ...
"Untraceable payments" refer to payer- and payee-untraceable Chaum-style cash. Although for the discussions here of extortion, payee-untraceable (the person being paid would not be traceable is my sense of this term) digital cash would be sufficient; that the payment originated from XYZ Corporation or some account at the Bank of Albania would not stop the acts.
Chaum has in recent years attempted (I have to presume) to take the "edge" of fully-intraceable digital cash by making it only partly untraceable. Many of us hypothesized that "mixes" (as in remailers) could be used to fully-untraceabalize (?) even partly-traceable systems. I recall Lucky Green, Hal Finney, and others in such discussions. "Banks" were proposed to do this. Recently, Ian Goldberg claims to have a system which formally accomplishes this.
So instead of shooting your stupid mouth, issue some ecash and promise to exchange it for real US$ upon bearer's demand. Do you have the balls for it?
Suppose there exists a supplier of fully-untraceable (or payee-untraceable at least) cash *somewhere* in the world. It could be a physical bank, a la the Bank of Albania, or it could be an underground payment system, a la the Mafia, the Tongs, the Triads, whatever. A reputation-reliant system which says "Present us with the proper set of numbers and we will provide money to the bearer, or follow instructions, and so on." (I'm informally describing the process of "redeeming" a digital bearer instrument, converting the set of numbers into some other form of specie, or item of value, whatever. Maybe gold, maybe dollars, maybe an entry into an account somewhere. The "untraceability," via the blinding operation, means that the bearer is not linked to the transaction made earlier, so there is not risk at the bank or Triad. I'm also not distinguishing between offline and online clearing here...my feeling for a long time has been that online clearing has many advantages, but I suspect it does not work too well in the extortion case described here, until something like PipeNet can be used as part of the process.)
Translation: you don't have the balls to do this yourself. See, "cypher punks" can only while and flame, and they don't have the guts to issue ecash and to say: this token will be exchanged for $1 by Lucky Green; and that token will be exchanged for $10 by Hall Filly.
This is why I look forward to this Brave New World of fully untraceable communications and fully untraceable economic transactions.
But you don't have the balls to bring it any closer, you airbag parasite. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps