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If you fail to obey the government rules men with guns will come and kill you, imprison you, or take away your property at gunpoint.
Assuming the language we are using is English, this is just plain wrong.
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It is not rules and enforcement that make a government a government - every organization, every group of people, have rules and enforcement, usually informal, sometimes formal.
Well I know my definition of government and I know websters definition of government, but this is the first I've heard of defining government by the force it weilds. I guess all I have to do is buy a gun if I want to start a government.
This "argument by definitions" is idiotic. Different people use words in different ways. Get used to it. Work around it. State your 'local' definition clearly and then use it consistently. Let's move on to the substance of the discussion, ok? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.5 iQCVAgUBLlhCJ33YhjZY3fMNAQFNPwQAi8VP3YGm08ln96MdV3YW/O8J78qoUeY/ xM+tAZNWxrOgnfVKyNxyxJURO/oaIdaADpG1jqo9wJ5xsAcFfLyXWud1FrEEjb4Q RsPQ8qvrygIXEt2dY4O7pQp2LwTG0HQUhClHpssT3orYkKfnzTrgGGc0+2f+4pMT PENbIMceHQU= =9KBq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----