-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <3485D7B7.E444A846@cptech.org>, on 12/03/97 at 05:05 PM, James Love <love@cptech.org> said:
Declan, apparently having missed the fab 50's, seems to be enjoying his use of the "leftist" word lately. Since this seems to mean quite different things to different persons, perhaps Mr. McCullagh can define his terms. What exactly is a "leftist" in 1997, in his opinion?
The Left-Right paradigm is hair splitting on which topics they use in their FUD campaigns for greater power. Typical Left FUD ================ EEO Social Security Universal Health Insurance "It takes a village" Global Warming "Gay Rights" Blah, Blah, Blah Typical Right FUD ================= NAFTA GATT Family Values War on Drugs Blah, Blah, Blah Quite often camps from both the Left and the Right will come together on various issues. This can become confusing to some and blur the lines between the two. Once one gets past the FUD spread by members of both groups one realizes that both groups are STATIST and SOCIALIST. All the bickering is not over the right and wrong of Unconstitutional State intervention into the lives of the citizens but over who gets how much of the pie and who to steal the pie from. In thinking over the Libertarian Party Political diamond I find it to be quit flawed. It makes the false assumption that state intervention in personal matters is independent from state intervention in economic matters. The two go hand in hand. I consider the following a better representation: C G D P R L Statist -|---|--|-|-|----------------------------|--------- Anarchist N D=Democrat R=Republican L=Libertarian G=Green P=Perot C=Russin/Chineese Communism N=German/Italian/Japanese Fascism Positioning on the graph represents current party leadership philosophy. Since these groups philosophies are so close you will find individual members that will fall on either side of the parties plank but will rarely fall very far away from it. An intriguing side note: Libertarian != Anarchist. This is a distinction that several members of this list have missed. Most Libertarians favor a limited government kept on a short leash but are unwilling to go as far as the anarchy of mob rule. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNIZ8lY9Co1n+aLhhAQKRBgQAzGjCsC4kfN/rPxZPGXtFVFhQWzUdi4O+ W1rDf/gXs4zCYRT1g3Rw4Op9cRBivgZe8YtnFJa3JdB8HqD3rKqPwjPIw2AvbDE3 IOEkUkDqpsQBfKKx1/+uEFZfOZB6pAqKpA+dP6LxySNXy067F4y2bBCDVYbdBhVq aIydEowN5f0= =3+f/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----