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The "credit card numbers were stolen" point, that I believe Ed Carp was referring to, had to do with the Mitnick affair, and is very old news.
The fact that they had been stolen was mentioned in an edition of 2600 6 months before the Mitnick saga. Netcom had been told about the security breaches many times, but refused to acknowledge that their site was insecure. It was this arrogance that pissed people off more than their insecurity. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMTm0vyoZzwIn1bdtAQFHgQGA2lxrjz1dzFmNmveG6yIhdc9xC3ghDr4h Q12sN3g9/s7uof66Q+bVBpIxsqbeJM0s =JckI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----