At 13:36 09/19/2000 -0700, you wrote:
You fucking idiots who want "closed" lists have several choices:
Can you come up with any kind of explaination whatsoever for referring to what may admittedly be a minority of people trying to make constructive comments about how to just reduce the fucking spam? As I said, how about this: If YOU don't like seeing MY email, then why don't YOU apply the same rules YOU apply to spam to IT? Apparently you have no fucking problem whatsoever with filtering out the great deal of spam that comes from this list, whats a few more messages?
1. Those who came before you _already_ created closed lists. "Cryptography" and "Coderpunks," for example. Join _those_ lists.
2. Subscribe to one of the filtered lists, e.g., Ray Arachelian's list.
3. Create your own lists.
BTW, if you are posting to the "toad.com" address, as you are, you are too ignorant to be giving us advice on how the list ought to be structured.
First off, let me point THIS out to you... A search on excite for +cypherpunks +list turns up a great deal of sites... The first site, "VERONA cypherpunks archives" has a link called "List Information", which goes nowhere. The second site, obscura.com has several links but no mention of the list itself. The third, fourth, fifth, sixth and ninth sites, the cypherpunks hyperarchive at inet-one.com, has a copy of an email message DIRECTED AT THE TOAD.COM ADDRESS that comes up first in the search, followed by some others. The SEVENTH site is homeport.org, and the first link on the site is to "The Cypherpunks Homepage" pointing to an FTP archive at berkeley, and has a link to the mailing list. This link specifically tells you TO use the toad.com address. So who is being ignorant exactly? You go to a page claiming to be the "Cypherpunks Homepage" and it says the mailing list is @toad.com?? Why don't you blame the asshole responsible for that site before blaming people who did their due diligence and turned up toad.com again and again? As it happens, this "homepage" makes no mention whatsoever about the other filtered lists.. not that I didn't know about Coderpunks or the others, but if you don't know, they aren't easy to just "bump into." This berkeley.edu site is the only site I've run across ever claiming to be "The Homepage" and I believe it to be the closest thing there is to one. So, kindly, shove it. ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/mailing_list/index.html is the site and page I am talking about. But, on a related note...
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Hey kettle, this is the pot. Did you happen to notice you're black?
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