-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 10:09 AM 5/22/97 -0700, Mark Grant wrote:
Sure, I was talking in general; my point only applies to those who make more 'government approved' posts than 'dangerous' ones. Of course there's still no guarantee that next year I won't be presented with an old signed post about something which was innocuous and is now hideously illegal.
So far in my close observation of the history of American jurisprudence I haven't seen too many written things that were legal at one point and later became (criminally) illegal. I've never seen someone punished criminally (in violation of the Constitution's ban on ex post facto laws) for past speech that became retroactively illegal. Some people have been sued and suffered financially for speech or writing that had been "legal" and became "illegal" at some indeterminate time (racism, sexism, bigotry, and homophobia par exaple) but examples of criminal prosecution are much harder to think of. There is the "hate speech" sentence enhancement to other crimes (beat up an old lady for kicks and serve time for assault beat up an old lady while saying unkind things about women and serve time for assault + hate speech). Certain kiddie porn definitions changed as well but I didn't see any ex post facto repeals in there. As long as you said/published stuff before it was illegal, you were OK. On the other hand, I've seen loads of things that used to be illegal to say/publish legalized over the years though most of them were civil rather than criminal matters to begin with. I've also seen plenty of cases (Jake Baker, Phil Zimmerman, the SEC vs the Financial Newsletters, the CDA) in which I knew in advance that the case was dead meat as soon as it got to an appeals court (or before). Those pure speech cases (in the absence of filthy pictures) are the easiest ones to win. I always encourage those arrested in such cases to take a hard line and abuse the prosecutors with the unwinnability of their cases. If you've got it, flaunt it. Jim Bell may do some time for tax evasion but they could have got him on that at any time. He won't be doing any time for publishing AP. And we won't be doing any time for what we say on this list. DCF "I win $20 if the CDA vote is 8-1 or 9-0." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM4TmiIVO4r4sgSPhAQEnzAQA098wMfchNZkECwCYZi9sXoSwuBPFnocu /0VWGA/ijLK1dXjnZtjKOqphPcCTNijwAGnjyRSs5cD3SJfRN11TzvxjUVh5PAeT d5mZa2rObGcHDm6bdH2aaKatAoPnyPTT89qwjIwvSX7g75wl5ENoDgCH0CMiI47k QUV3SfHNPhU= =CJq4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----