Yes sir no sir three bags full sir... http://news.com.com/2100-1023-956243.html?tag=fd_top Carnivore fails in the US...fall of Govts imminent? Declan McPotatoheads heads fall report..."No one's life, liberty or property are safe while the CATO Institute is in session." http://news.com.com/2010-1071-956201.html?tag=fd_nc_1 As the PATRIOT act was pre chewed,what else is on the menu Dec? Inquiring minds etc... "First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never figure out how to work pgp5 anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left to speak up."