-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dave Del Torto <ddt@lsd.com> wrote:
At 1:25 am 3/30/96, jim bell wrote:
We should be particularly suspicious of any hint of a pan-European ban or control of encryption, because that is exactly the kind of development that could usher in a secretly-negotiated treaty that might be argued to be binding on the public. [elided]
Cypherpunks like Jim need to keep doing their homework before they make such quasi-factual statements.
Jim seems to analyse a situation in terms of broad principles, while Dave seems to focus more on specifics that would disprove Jim. I agree with the Dave's last phrase in the sense that our models of reality should indeed be rooted in reality. But considering that in most european country, you are recognized guilty unless proven innocent, it is only non-contradictory to arrive at Jim's conclusions. The basic psycho-epistemology at work there is implying that. Maybe that on the instant, ugly things are not happening, but nevertheless, the basic principles held about man, his nature and therefore, about how he should be treated leads, by their own logic, to ugly things. JFA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQEVAwUBMV5p5siycyXFit0NAQGSjAf/abwWK0DoLESROTPjrNgEcX66t+zFJ8X8 c1oMvDqXsUye0WKibkgiO+yQ7Cjt2Zxo1bD9luH9boX0vUPhDxtUclw64HJ7SOGK WVVizbZLYmz5dSoOO8+0JpJUyFFgdI9LOMPjD1wIH84YwC8zjjSx/ZCPoEzt0lux pP2l57+G3aVwvxCXBD0lm/Uwtafn3i35ZsOyuKRq802Is8BhFH1hka+SzUyuU1i2 Tcw7/WbqSklvGSkVkBxKMJot7GbBTEQMNqVH7oLECY1oTKafEnXzAKihKJYef49w AJJpsOr5LQ9hyrKzAL9Mhzpx/DrrnIQ3BxMb7VgtbHSMjaEMJ+rS0g== =3bz4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Public Key at http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon@citenet.net> 2048 bits key ID:C58ADD0D 1996/03/01 fingerprint=52 96 45 E8 20 5A 8A 5E F8 7C C8 6F AE FE F8 91 Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at a rate of 165 $ U.S. per hours. Any sender of unsollicited commercial e-mail will be considered as to have accepted the above mentionned terms.