(I've removed 9 of the addresses from this response.) At 12:42 PM -0700 5/30/97, Jeff Burchell wrote:
I have previously talked with the operator of the cypherpunks list (this was about 2 months ago when someone else was abusing the remailer to post
And just who is "the operator of the cypherpunks list"? If this was about 2 months ago, it would've been well after the Cypherdiaspora, so there would be even less of a concept of the "operator" than there was before. And why would he or she or they have anything to say about blocking remailers?
trash to that list). At that time, I offered the standard good will gesture that remailer operators can offer: "Would you like me to block the list, so this remailer won't send anything to it". Because of the nature of anonymous remailers, this is about the extent of the action that I can take.
To this, I recieved a very firm "no!" (cypherpunks is of course a list where people do have good reasons to use remailers). Because of that, I _WON'T_ block cypherpunks, until I am instructed to by May, Gilmore, Hughes, et.al. Period. This holds true for all mailing lists. I need to have authorization from the list maintainer to block the list.
Neither May nor Gilmore nor Hughes have any say over blocking remailers, blocking use of remailers, etc.
-Jeff Operator... Huge.cajones.com
P.S. Besides... aren't ad hominum attacks on Tim May a Cypherpunks tradition?
I mean no disrespect to Jeff, but even getting involved in the slightest way in debates about remailer traffic and what should/should not be blocked is what can only be called a "conceptual error." Ideal mixes, which today's remailers are of course only an approximation of, do not pass and reject messages based on content, or even on sources and destinations. The ideal mix is a soulless black box executing certain protocols. (Practicality may dictate that a remailer place certain minimal, and hopefully publicized, constraints on the process, e.g., no sending to whitehouse.gov, no sending to hundreds of addresses, whatever.) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."