The fact that something is complex does not mean your end of it can not be monitered. You need to discover random numbers from something very local to you, or your opponents can mess with your numbers. David Wagner posted something about how Mallet could muck with your RNG if it was based on incoming packet checksums, back in September. If you want good random numbers, track the mouse. Don't go looking outside your computer to things other computers do. Lastly, using collision-resistant hashing in considered preferable to encrypting information. Adam Olcay Cirit wrote: | If the internet is so huge and complex, why not, say, use | the least significant bits of ping times from random internet | hosts as seeds for a PRNG? (Practical Random Number Gen.) | After all this, you could wash it with a secure symmetric | cryptosystem such as idea in CBC mode. -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume