I stand behind my original post and the analysis in it. I am amused at the tremendous attempts by people with certain political affinities to bail out Weaver by a series of arguments based either on profound ignorance of political realities or with their own private dictionaries. The whole argument of racism vs. white separatism vs. white suppremicist seems more to come from people who argue whether someone is a Baptist or a Christian or a Southern Baptist or a Protestant. (In mathematical set theory one would trace the fallacy in thinking to the false idea that any given element of a set cannot be the element of more than one set. Thus, if (X is a member of Y) it cannot also be a member of Z.) I understand that James D. is not accusing me of being a "child molester" but merely using it as a reductio ad adsurdem argument. Let me continue in this vein. The issue of child molestation was dragged in and had no relevance on the immediate political isues of Weaver et al. But imagine people are arguing about the deep fundamental differnces between someone who is a "child molester" vs. a "pedophile" vs. a "boy lover." --tallpaul On Apr 22, 1996 22:26:41, 'jamesd@echeque.com' wrote:
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"E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.Rutgers.EDU>' wrote:
Randy Weaver was neither a neo-Nazi nor a racist. He was (and, so far as I know, still is) a white separatist. (One would think liberals would tolerate this - they tolerate the equally offensive black separatists, after all...).
The well known child molester tallpaul wrote:
Might we know the source of his complete info on Weaver's political and racial beliefs.
I see, in essence, three hypothesis:
1) Cover the ass of a potential neo-Nazi or racist (or both) without any
reference to what is really true;
2) Get information from outer space;
Well, child-molester-tallpaul, I notice that the liberal lapdog press calls him White-Separatist-Randy-Weaver as though he was baptized "white separatist" at birth.
Presumably if they had one grain of evidence that he was a Nazi or a white supremacist, they would call him White-supremacist-Randy-Weaver.
I notice that you have not one grain of evidence that he is a nazi, just as I have not one grain of evidence that you fuck little boys up their asses, but you insinuate that he is a Nazi until somehow proven innocent (and how can anyone prove himself innocent of thought crime), and you also insinuate that anyone who suggests otherwise must be a nazi or nazi sympathizer himself. Obvious proof that you are a homosexual child molester.
(Note for the seriously humor impaired. I have no more reason to believe that tallpaul rapes little children than tallpaul has to believe that Randy Weaver was a white supremacist or tallpaul has to believe that Allen Smith is a Nazi sympathizer.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd@echeque.com