the key battles will be waged in the courtrooms after any laws get passed. frankly, I admit I am stunned with the seeming ease with which various bad laws get passed. in my youthful naivete I would have thought that an unconstitutional bill, or one with the slightest doubt, wouldn't even be remotely *considered*. but what the last crypto bill runaround showed rather shockingly was that it is horrifyingly easy for bad bills to make it far into the legislative process, and a kind of frankensteinan process can occur in which a bill ends up being manipulated far beyond or to the direct opposite of its original intentions. moreover, virtually no congressmen any more care about whether a law is constitutional-- it's a concept that is trampled underfoot in all the lobbying and powermongering. hence, I think we need to rely more on the courtroom-- it's the only "language" that bureacrats understand. extremely expensive, but more effective. it forces us to put our money where our mouths are. "the price of liberty is eternal vigilance" and a lot of cash as well. the PRZ case proves the public can support such a campaign. also tactics as used by Softwar such as the FOIA attack approach. I predict that there are going to be major lawsuits of interest to the cypherpunks in the near future. the telecom industry is dragging its feet over implementing the orwellian FBI digital wiretap law, last I heard. this is a big story that Wired et. al. have not noticed imho. the telecom industry from what I can tell considers it a bureacratic nightmare and stalling as much as possible. just wait until it gets to the point they feel like turning loose their armies of pit-bull lawyers. these are companies that consider litigation virtually part of their job description. so the major GAK lawsuit might go like this. joe sixpack uses a GAK system but "superencrypts" on top of it. fbi gets a warrant but cannot read his mail, tries to prosecute him on "obstruction of justice" or whatever, unrelated to any actual crime. joe sixpack sues the FBI for violation of the first amendment rights. it would be a great spectacle. increasingly I think we should not be so alarmed when orwellian laws pass. we need to fight them tooth and nail in the beginning, but in many ways a court victory such as with the CDA can be far more compelling to the government bureacrats than lobbying. and of course there is the "guerilla tactics" that everyone here is so fond of advocating, which I think have some appropriateness in some forms. even Gandhi advocated "widespread civil disobedience"