I refer you to my earlier posting requesting people to direct thier fire at something that needs to be ignighted -- like your local newspaper or local congress person or local president -- but it's definately not the Cypherpunks mailing list. We MUST NOT waste time writing each other letters that we'll learn nothing by reading. We should spend that same time writing to newspapers, congress people, phone companies, Clinton, Gore, and anybody else who thinks they can get away with this because they feel the citizenry either doesn't care about or doesn't understand the issues. What I'd like to see about the Privacy Clipper on this list is something I don't already know, like the name and address of AT&T's president's secretary -- s/he'll complain to the prez if enough privacy mail arrives. Better yet, how about more copies of the letters to the uninformed that you have already sent. Be imaginative, be active, rattle cages, but telling me how pissed you are won't change a thing, except to decrease the time we're both spending on doing something effective. Be effective. Please. -a2.