At 03:31 AM 06/29/2002 -0700, davidbrin@cts.com wrote:
Thanks Bill, for passing on your message, along with the news that I've been dissed and discussed by R.A. Hettinga. Naturally, he never informed me, nor copied me his missives, nor invited me to answer. This appears to be quite typical.
Sure. I'd assumed you'd seen his mail; I'm separately forwarding the message that I'd excerpted, though I don't seem to have most of the other messages in the thread; archives are at http://inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ (it's mostly full of spam, because somebody once decided to make a point about list filtering by subscribing us to all the spam he could find but there's real content as well; I read the spam-filtered version of the list, but I'm not aware of an archive of that version.) You do get occasionally discussed on the list, or at least referred to,
Your attempt, below, is a good effort. Inaccurate in some details, but also quite interesting. I wish I had time for a full reaction. Perhaps I will try later, after returning from giving a keynote at the Libertarian National Convention.
Oh, that'll be interesting - I'll see you there. One of the cypherpunks arguments is that you'll get a lot more whistleblowers if they can do so anonymously.
... The only defense of freedom that works is the one americans have used for 200 years. An AGGRESSIVE approach, barging into the citadels of power, ripping the blinds, opening the windows, protecting the whistleblowers, siccing elites against each other, unleashing a myriad news-hounds and generally stripping the big boys naked! ... My freedom is protected by MY ability to supervise govt... to know what they are up to and to hold them accountable if they abuse their power. Not only is that epistemologically possible, it is exactly how we got the freedom we now have!