Okay, here comes a test case. Can enough copies of PGP and other decent crypto get circulating in Norway, and posted on public-accessible terminals (in bookstores and so on, perhaps with an attendant or coinbox to cover telephone charges), and posted on every university machine and anywhere else that seems useful, to prevent the Clipper-or-else law from being passed...? If it passes, are there enough people willing to do civil disobedience to get the law overturned in the courts...? Precedent is contagious. Even internationally. If the nasties get away with it over there, it's just an incentive for their colleagues everywhere else to try more of same. Does anyone here know the status of the crypto scene over there, in terms of how many people involved, how many using good crypto, how many will hop on the bandwagon if things get worse...? -gg