Typically, you misunderstand a vigorous defense of someone's right to publish certain information with endorsement of the information published. Also typically, in a Choatian sense, you erroneously conflate speech with action. The rest is blather and not worth responding to. -Declan At 07:37 AM 6/13/01 -0500, measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
ORBS/MAPS/etc. "participate" by connecting to and reviewing sites, much like I go out to and watch movies to review.
Not always. If you refused to have your site "reviewed", then they would literally make one up.
Huh? If theyr'e checking to see if you're running an open relay or harboring spammers, both can be verified ("reviewed") without too much effort.
No. Assuming that ORBS servers were blocked at the edge (as is the case here), they have absolutely no way to test for open relays (not that it would do any good here, as we don't have any). If ORBS probes are blocked, ORBS will literally _invent_ the review of "open relay", and apply it to the "movie" (domain) they never had access to "see".
There is another dark side to ORBS which seems to be missed here: Most people's primary complaint about spammers is that they (the spammer) is making use of network services at someone elses expense, without permission of the spamee. ORBS is guilty of the EXACT same "crime" - but, the ORBS is Politically Correct, so nobody seems to mind...
Hypocrisy in action, eh?
Good riddance to bad trash. Now that ORBS is dead, when are you going to follow their fine example Declan?
Amusing. Last time I got a veiled death threat was when I wrote about UFOs.
You flatter yourself *way* too much Declan - I know of nobody who would waste a cartridge on your useless ass.
-Declan
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