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I made note to this list time and time again requesting that people not state the obvious - who owns what hardware and what rights they have to pull the plug or whatever. I seriously doubt that even the least intelligent cypherpunk would misunderstand such a thing. Do you really believe that myself and other cypherpunks want to "seize" John's equip- ment, morally or otherwise? You are correct about certain issues being complex, but one of the big failings of the crowd who supported Gilmore on this action was their failure to understand the point I've made here - that we *do* understand basic property rights, etc.
Ah. Then we are in agreement here. My "Rule" in the House Rules etc. simply stated the obvious fact, for the benefit of those who need it stated, of Gilmore's sole authority over the physical substrate. I vaguely recall some subscribers implying or stating otherwise during the vanish Vulis fracas. It would not at all surprise me if some people disagreed with this simple premise-- they habitually do so with regard to "public" establishments like bars and restaurants, and it isn't much of a stretch to start thinking of cypherpunks as a similarly "public" institution.
*We* are not in agreement. If you insist on arguing that, I'll have to resort to the "Spock" clarification (a la Star Trek), that it's not merely what you say I object to, it's you I object to.
Um.. Whatever, dude. Have a nice day. Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMqVZC0jbHy8sKZitAQFdjQMAhFo4RA1n+O4Giksi+4alHibWZ3euNy9F NZCh4q7V0KFxV4JScokr1lOYLnudsRaH61gHhyJ38mXXwfgKLbcg0Dd1iY8IiQit 8YvRXTqx+GLZI26aZ5UDL9FriMRbxSnf =iRix -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----